the moving and costs and -- you have one car, right? >> yes, yes. >> for all of you. so, getting around and getting the kids around and getting to your job... >> yeah, i have to take public transit so my husband can take all the kids to school so he has a car available for him. that's what we're gonna have to start doing, yeah. >> now, one of the big reasons you're able to do what you do is because of food-bank support. >> yes, that's correct. >> so, tell me how that works. >> i've been going to church about a year and a half -- trinity church -- to get the food available for us, and then we pick up the produce, and then we go there, pick all the fresh fruits and vegetables, and then there's also, you know, canned goods and meats, and then once we get that, it helps that we make salads, 'cause it's very expensive to do that, 'cause i currently work at a grocery store, and it's still very expensive to try to get the fresh fruits and vegetables for us. so, once we do that, we bring it home, and that seems to help us out quite a bit. >> and then they get the food from another source. >> yes. second harvest food bank.